Monday, July 30, 2007

WILL BUSH-CHENEY ATTEMPT A COUP?

Personally I don’t think they will, but I don’t think it can be ruled out. I think that from September, as the next report on Iraq comes in, Bush will be so cornered and humiliated politically that it becomes very difficult to have any sense of what he might do. In the normal run of things he is quite predictable – his ‘surge’ in Iraq, for example, was fairly foreseeable.

But what happens when reality runs so counter to the worldview of an unusually rigid character like Bush? He cannot adapt, and he knows it’s coming, and soon. With his Prog Mars conjoining natal Jupiter ever more tightly, he KNOWS he is right about Iraq and the direction he is taking the US, and this to him might justify some sort of coup in order to maintain his policies.Lynn quotes the following:

“And yet Bush does not come across like a man lamenting his plight. In public and in private, according to intimates, he exhibits an inexorable upbeat energy that defies the political storms. Even when he convenes philosophical discussions with scholars, he avoids second-guessing his actions. He still acts as if he were master of the universe, even if the rest of Washington no longer sees him that way.

"You don't get any feeling of somebody crouching down in the bunker," said Irwin M. Stelzer, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute who was part of one group of scholars who met with Bush. "This is either extraordinary self-confidence or out of touch with reality. I can't tell you which."

So has he got something up his sleeve, which we don’t know about?

Lynn also says the following:

“It was in early May that Bush quietly signed a Presidential Directive permitting the President to have complete authority over all three branches of government in the event of a national emergency, basically giving him dictatorial powers.”

Commenting on one of my recent blogs, Kenna J said:

“From the USA here...

Astrologer Anne Ortelee has said that NONE of the currently declared presidential candidates have the right aspects in their charts to become the next president. (Maybe it was their charts of the declaration moments, I don't remember exactly) Well, this didn't surprise me at all. What motivation would Cheney's regime have for stepping down? It seems very optimistic to me that people think there is going to BE a next election. The recent subtle, gradual shift of power to the Executive Branch-- through various bills signed without notice and riders added to bills after they were ratified by Congress, as well as blatant disregard for the law without reprimand from those whose job it is to impeach-- has mimicked the gradual rise of Hitler. Hitler didn't take power; he was handed it. We have the same situation on our hands. I really can't think of any reason why this current administration would loosen its hold on the catbird seat.

I mean, did all that power get gradually usurped so that they could just hand it over to the next Democrat who gets elected? I doubt it!

I think the events of this autumn are likely to be even darker than you're predicting. Just as Pluto in Sagittarius showed us the dark, damaging side of the US Justice System-- beginning with the truth about racist cops coming out in the OJ Simpson trial-- I think Pluto in Capricorn is going to show us the dark, damaging side of the US powers-that-be. Benito Mussolini said something like, "Fascism should be called corporatism, because it is the merging of state and corporate interests." We're there already, no doubt. Now, it's just a matter of Pluto digging it out for all to see.”

So what do you think? Do many Americans fear this might happen? And might the re-appearance of Venus in late August (see yesterday’s blog) herald the rise of Cheney the Dictator? Cheney would certainly know how to create the legal basis for it.


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11 comments:

Melody said...

I liked what Kenna wrote when I read it initially - and although this scenerio wouldn't surprise me at all, I can see other equally likely possibilities, none of them good (in my mind - even though they may initially appear that way to consensus reality).

clymela said...

So, yes!! From this american astrologer to a coup. And my understanding comes more from intuition than any thinking. Several years ago I knew in the way intuition works that these "guys" were not going anywhere. I saw that they have bet their lives, bet the farm, bet it all on this move and they will not be persuaded by any thing so refined and elegant as an election.
The crimes in Iraq alone should indicate that they don't plan on leaving office.
The coming Uranus in Aries square Pluto in Capricorn indicates that there is a struggle coming up. I have heard an astrologer thinking that this is when the gloves will come off and we will really understand what we are up against.
On the other hand I have heard that colonizing societies don't continue past their Pluto return. I don't know but I do know that sometimes it seems that we are living through a rerun of the Nazis.

gbs said...

No, a coup will not happen. To be sure, the Republicans will haul out their usual bag of dirty tricks, the same one they drag out every electoral cycle, but a new president will be (reasonably) democratically elected in November 2008.

chrispito said...

It's interesting that you posted a photo of Hitler, since faced with defeat he killed himself. As for what will happen now, it's anyone's guess.

Anonymous said...

" Melody said...

I liked what Kenna wrote when I read it initially"

But does that have any baring on whether something is *true*: that we 'like' it?

I bet ol' David Icke would like it too!

Twilight said...

I don't think that what you describe is a widely held fear in the USA - at least, if it is, nobody seems to be talking about it much.

The only situation I can imagine in which a "coup" might take place would be after some huge natural disaster, or a devastating attack on the USA by a foreign power country (North Korea, perhaps). Then The Bush regime would try to keep hold of the reins "in the country's best interest". It's not outside the realm of possibility that the Bush gang could engineer something - though not a natural diasater, in spite of the fact that GWB thinks he talks with God.

In normal circumstances (or what passes for normal these days) I can't imagine a coup. George Bush may look on the Constitution as "just a bit of paper" but to millions of Americans it is sacred. I would like to think that if GWB did attempt a coup, the country would rise up, almost as one, and fight back. Civil War - again.

While the bulk of US troops are in Iraq I doubt there'd be enough military presence in the USA to do the necessary in support of Bush, anyway.

If there's a clear astrological indication that "something is going to happen", it'll probably be something we haven't even thought of - yet.

-pd- said...

Interesting graphic of der fuehrer -- looks like he's got Scorpio rising.
I consider a Cheney-Bush putsch probable -- it rather fits with the "George W. Putsch" epithet they were tagged with back around "inauguration" '01. The legal and media systems have been greatly corrupted during Pluto in Sag, and now, with Jupiter also in Sag, those of us trawling below the radar see the last legal framework put in place for an all-out power grab. Look for it once Pluto has touched 0 Capricorn and Jupiter has also crossed over.

Melody said...

from anonymous:
" Melody said...

I liked what Kenna wrote when I read it initially"

But does that have any baring on whether something is *true*: that we 'like' it?

I bet ol' David Icke would like it too!


I am a writer but sometimes my Mercury trine Neptune can be obtuse... Anyway, just wanted to add that I liked the way Kenna wrote - the analysis was succinct and grabbed my attention (hard to do!) As I writer I like to acknowledge others that catch my admiration. I also like Dharmaruci's writing, which is irrelevant to the truth (or not) of what he writes about. I like David Icke's too, even if I'm not sure about everything he talks about. In fact the only good writer out there who is always right is me….just kidding! :)

unique_astrology said...

The report on Iraq is due Saturday, Sep 15. General belief seems to be that the Iraqi Gov will not have "met" the benchmarks agreed to earlier this year in order to receive further funding for the war.

Bush cannot count on a natural disaster to occur, or a terrorist attack (why would they when such an attack would prompt Congress to authorize funding or allow Bush to assume complete control and continue the war against them?)or any other situation to occur whereby he may implement the Presidential directive he signed on May 9th allowing him to assume total control of the U.S. Government.

What to do? It would seem incredulous but could a "terrorist" attack be in the works for late September?

Transiting Sun and Mars will activate the Sibly Neptune and Mars and then the T-Square of September 19 will activate the secondary progressed Sun and Moon of the 9/11 attack (Q2 Mean Quotidian angles, New York) and Mars from the May 9 signing of the Presidential directive (time unknown).

Do a chart for Sep 19, at 1:02 pm, EDT for Washington, DC. Relocate the Sibly chart to Washington and progress it to that date and time. The progressed Sibly chart has Pluto opposite the MC and Saturn conjunct the East Point (an exact square of 90 degrees in right ascension to the MC/IC axis and progressed Pluto) the square between Saturn and Pluto being exact to the minute of arc.

The progressed WTC attack chart angles and the progressed Sibly chart angles are within 5 minutes of arc from being exact meaning the progressed Saturn and Pluto from the Sibly U.S. chart activate the MC/IC axis of the progressed attack chart or are activated by them. I do not like to use the word activate but will do so here to save time and space.

unique_astrology

unique_astrology said...

In addition to the above, the T-Square will aspect the progressed Neptune and transit Saturn will oppose progressed Sibly Sun.

The following data is submitted in measurement by right ascension, If you want to see the longitides you will have to do the above charts.

September 19, 2007, 1:02 pm transits, Washington, D. C.

Sun 176 degrees 41 minutes
Moon 266 degrees 02 minutes
Pluto 266 degrees 12 minutes
Mars 85 degrees 08 minutes

GC 266 degrees 24 minutes

May 9 signing Noon (Spec)

Mars 356 degrees 27 minutes

Progressed Sibly

Neptune 177 degrees 11 minutes
Moon/Sat 176 degrees 50 minutes
Sun/Mars 266 degrees 39 minutes

Progressed WTC attack

Sun 175 degrees 09 minutes
Moon 178 degrees 40 minutes

Also progressed Sibly and transit Saturn

Sun 334 degrees 51 minutes
Saturn 154 degrees 35 minutes

Kenna J. said...

Hey, Melody,

Thanks for complimenting my writing. I agree with you about the high-quality of Dharmaruci's writing. I think the time he takes to write clearly and carefully is what makes this such a great blog.

I'm building my freelance editing resume, in hopes of editing for financial gain someday. If you'd like me to take a pass at any of your pieces before publishing, I'd be happy to do so. I can do one-offs or a steady commitment such as a regular column.

kjosephene@hotmail.com