This is what I call the western negative Saturn, and it sits there in square to the Sun in the chart of that most western of all countries, the USA.I think that simply being is our basic state. If there is nothing to be done, then don’t do anything, just fiddle around and be you. It is the doing that needs justifying, not the being. If you are doing something, then make sure you have a good reason for it, and that it’s not the usual stuff about feeling like you ought to be busy, that without it you wouldn’t feel like you were a real person, that you should be 'achieving' something and making a ‘contribution to society' etc.
I see this quite a lot as an astrologer: a big transit comes along and the person can’t carry on as before and it makes them feel like they are a mess because their identity is so caught up with the act of doing. I say it's good to feel like you're a directionless mess, put time aside for it every day! I recently told one friend with a very fixed chart that it might be good for her to just fall apart for a while, and she replied no, I don't need to do that, I did that 10 years ago, been there done that. For once I was almost lost for words!
Saturn describes both the being and the doing. Saturn is on the one hand the worldly taskmaster, he is our ability to give shape to our lives, to become good at what we do, to apply ourselves and produce results and to make our way in the world. That is all well and good. He acquires his negative form when we feel we are nothing without all that, that unless we are continually producing measurable results then we are nothing.
Saturn sets boundaries. These boundaries are not just the forms and obstacles through which we outwardly live. He is also the boundary around ourself, he is our solitude and what we do with it. Saturn is the place we come back to at the end of the day when we are in the armchair, or driving to and from work.So Saturn is these 2 poles, which isn’t how we usually think of him: the outward achievement and the inner contemplation. This is why he is the Hermit card in the Mythic Tarot.
Saturn sets the boundaries around our outer and inner lives. And he adopts his negative form at either pole if we do not pay attention to the other pole. The one-sided inner Saturn never takes his place in the world, never develops his talents, never quite arrives on the planet. The one-sided outer Saturn never knows any peace, is always driven to achieve more and more, even though this ‘achievement’ probably only impresses those who are driven by the same demon.
The place I live in, Glastonbury, has a lot of the negative inner Saturn about. In many ways Glastonbury represents a continuation of the counter-culture that began in the 60s, and its shadow is the world of work and money and success. A lot of people here are suspicious of anyone with a regular professional job, or who is in any way connected to the establishment. We become that which we oppose, and one of the last people I’d trust with my money would be a fundamentalist hippy.
So both poles of Saturn are needed for life to work. We need to find our place in the world, but we also need our messy solitude. And different people will have different emphases depending on their time of life and their chart. If you’ve got Sun and Moon up near the top of the chart, your life is about what you do, and it can be quite hard to think of quiet time as anything other than what happens between bouts of activity. Knowledge of your real motivations may not be your strong suit. If you’ve got Sun and Moon underneath the Asc/Desc axis, then you’ll want to take time before you act, you’ll want to feel things through so that when you do something, it’s for the right reason, there will be depth to what you do. But you may also back off from activity because you don’t feel too confident out there in the world.

16 comments:
Hurrah...you're back. Thanks for that by the way. Nice to have a good perspective on both Saturn and doing nothing...Lynfa
That was a truly mature saturnian view of humanity from a man who is ruled by a planet perhaps most deeply affected by this long uranus/saturn opposition. Good going, man. Really insightful and with your permission, I'd like to pass it along to a friend in Boston.
Hope you are well.
Cheers,
MaryBeth in California
Thanks for this perspective, and I agree. I'm wondering if you have any advice for moving towards the outer Saturn if you're more on the inner side? I've had no problem with using all my time for inner contemplation and 'just being,' but huge problems with figuring out what to do in the world, or really having any motivation to do outer things.
Great post with a very necessary reminder. Been fighting this all my life, both internally and externally. Lots of Saturn to personal planet aspects natally.
Thanks for another timely post! :-)
I love CEO Barbie as an image of Saturn in Libra! She is spot-on!
Missed you when you were out there enjoying yourself.....
As an elder with saturn in the last degree of Capricorn on my ascendant, at this stage in my life, I'm embracing the Saturnine dichotomy as you expressed it: retreating to my cave to recharge and hang out and emerging on stage to reap the fruits of my endeavors when so inclined. bb
Brilliant and timely article sir! Thank you.
Lovely to have you back blogging, as usual spot on, and your tining is great been thinking about this myself lately too.
Very nice nuanced and balanced view, thanks. And yes, CEO Barbie is perfect for Saturn in Libra. :-)
This is a very good article with a fresh and insightful perspective on Saturn energy!
All the best,
I've been wondering what this Saturn-Uranus opposition was about for me and in the middle of reading your piece on Saturn it came clear. The opposition is falling across my five-eleven houses and I finally realized, with the insight brought on by your great article, that my inner-outer balance is needing adjustment. In fact, yesterday I found myself using my creative talents to nudge me back out among friends I've ignored for too long. The pendulum had swung too far to my inner focus and I was spending all my time wondering what there is to motivate anyone to anything, ignoring all the while how lonely I felt. Ha.
YOU ARE BACK!!! Missed your articles, ... yes saturn can be a nightmare... I think i´m being selfish looking for your articles on your blog every day but reading todays messages i realize that you have quite a fan club of worried readers. Thank you for your articles.
This was a wonderful post. Very helpful.
Cheers & Namaste
I read this article/posting somewhere other than your site and I was so touched by your insight into our craziness.
I love this article and will keep it for reference.
Oh by the way Sun, Moon, Saturn under the horizon here. Definitely a tendency to stay "home" but i did in the end do my share of the "world's work"
Great post - as always!!!! Thank you :-)
what a wonderful blog. so much info really amazing, thank you.
something i found interesting too,
astro and the weather,
http://www.mountwashington.org/forums/showthread.php?t=919&page=31
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