Thursday, March 04, 2010

Why Gordon Brown will beat David Cameron

On Jan 23 I predicted from a combination of the polls and Gordon Brown’s and David Cameron’s charts that the Tories would win the next election. I’m now going to argue the opposite. I reckon that if you use just straight astrology, and ignore the opinion polls etc, that Gordon Brown is definitely favoured over David Cameron. As an astrologer, I have to give most weight to this sort of argument.

I’m going to be slightly more deterministic in my astrology than I would for an ordinary reading, because politicians are often very wilfully driven and involved in collective currents, so there tends to be less personal choice in what they do. I confess I want Labour to win, but I think this analysis is impartial. When I say Brown will beat Cameron, that is all I am saying: I am not even necessarily saying an overall majority.


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The big transits in Gordon Brown’s chart this year are Pluto conjunct MC, Neptune conjunct Sun (early stages of), Uranus conjunct Venus (late stages of), Saturn Return and Saturn square MC. I argued last time that this combination, particularly what Neptune and Pluto are doing, is too big for Gordon Brown to be continuing in the same job, albeit with a mandate from the electorate. I may be right, but as I said, I’m going to try and just use astrology. And Pluto conjunct MC and Neptune conjunct Sun speak of a deep re-empowerment of career (Pluto/MC) together with a deep letting go of old rigidities and new inspiration (Neptune/Sun). These transits are conjunctions, the easiest of the ‘hard’ transits. So I wouldn’t expect to see him being slung out of a job that, like any politician, he really wants.

Venus in a politician describes popular appeal. It is likely to continue to be unsteady as his Uranus-Venus transit continues, but again it is a conjunction, so popular opinion at worst is not likely to swing wildly against him.

Brown’s Saturn Return is also fine, particularly as it is his second one, which is generally smoother than the first. The only clearly difficult transit is Saturn square MC: to fulfil his ambitions (MC) he will have to measure up (Saturn) and this will be testing (Square). On the other hand, Brown has natal Saturn square MC, so he has had 59 years to get used to this aspect, which concerns overcoming the difficulties and obstacles which lie in the way of his ambitions. So in this context, I don’t see it as particularly difficult, more like business as usual.


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As for David Cameron, his transits are Pluto square Asc and opposite MC (late stages of), Pluto square Venus (early stages), Neptune opposite Mars, Uranus opposite Asc and square MC and Saturn conjunct Asc and conjunct Venus. I find the Neptune opposite Mars particularly indicative: it does not suggest someone who is about to become a decisive leader, rather the opposite. Mars being in the 11th, the transit could be read as someone whose personal drive inspires the collective, but he doesn’t seem to be that sort of politician if you look for Neptune in his natal chart or transits (cf Tony Blair, whose period in office was characterised by Neptune transits). Besides, the transit is an opposition.

So David Cameron has all 3 outer planets making squares or oppositions to his chart. An exceptional politician could dynamically swing this to his advantage (like Obama swung transiting Pluto opposite Venus/popularity to his advantage). But in his 4 years as leader of the Tories, Cameron hasn’t generated the sort of excitement and impact you’d expect from a politician of that calibre (this is a non-astrological judgement, but I think even a Tory would agree with that, while appreciating what he has nevertheless done for the Party.)

The only transits that are not unfavourable are from Saturn. But as a leader, Cameron is still young – he is 43 – and at that age, Saturn’s lessons usually still need to be learned. So Saturn is probably not yet on his side, and that Saturn-Venus (popularity) transit looks particularly sticky.

So I have to conclude, as an astrologer, that Gordon Brown will defeat David Cameron in this year’s General Election. Brown will experience this as a deep renewal, whereas it will be the end for Cameron as Tory leader, because the planets are so against him. With Virgo Rising and Saturn-Chiron in the 6th, I think he would make a good Minister for Health in the next Tory administration. But with Pluto square Sun coming up in a few years, he could leave politics by the following General Election.

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17 comments:

douglas_bebb said...

It seems Hitler agrees with your prognosis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BimSZ6ozDj4

Anonymous said...

Now write an article arguing that it will be a hung parliament and you'll have covered all the bases!

Dharmaruci said...

No, I'm sticking with Labour having more seats than the Tories, and Brown being the PM again. I'll either be right or wrong!

hitchhiker72 said...

I really like your take on British politics. I wonder if you had any astrological thoughts on the recent news about Gordon Brown bullying his staff. Seems counter-intuitive for a Piscean, but I haven't looked at the rest of his chart lately.

Dharmaruci said...

Gordon Brown has Aries Rising, which can easily be aggressive. It's ruler, Mars, is in 12th House Pisces, which I think in his case is on the one hand passive-aggressive, and on the other hand lacking boundaries when it does come out.

Dharmaruci said...

Also Brown's Progressed Sun is about to move from Aries to Taurus, which should make him a bit more easygoing. A lot of it is probably unsatisfied ambition, and a mandate from the electorate, however tenuous, could make him a happy man.

analysa said...

GORDON Brown will clobber the elderly with a savage pay-as-you-die tax bombshell that could force people to give up their home on their death, it can be revealed today.

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/159716/Now-the-dead-must-pay-council-tax

Socialism, Marxism, Fabian Socialism, Communist, National Socialist(Nazism) are all the same thing. Murderous eugenic sanctioning Collectivist regimes. Watch for similarities to Obama's EPA policies towards farmers.

The truth about Marxism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMrFsdgrv1Y&feature=related

Looks like they are all sitting together having a good laugh!

Darren said...

You have a very different perspective on politics to mine, but I'm open to different views. My question would be: aside from everything else, don't you think that (1) the deficit is a big problem, and (2) the conservatives would be better at sorting it out?

Dharmaruci said...

Yes, I think the Tories probably would be better at sorting out the deficit. But I think that needs weighing against their lack of compassion, and the sort of society that tends to create.

Sally said...

So why this analysis now, DR? Why didn't you come up with this a few months ago?

I think it could be a straight case of your political "slip" showing - but of course we shall see soon enough.

Jonathan W said...

I think you're right, though I'm basing my prediction on the Nodes, their Solar Returns, and as an American who hasn't followed the race as closely as others might have.

Cameron has the South Node moving through his 10th House. In fact, it'd be interesting to look back at the news around last May or so to see what happened when the South Node met his Jupiter. Was there a reversal of sorts or something?

Here in the States, Martha Coakley in Massachusetts saw a 30 point lead evaporate as the South Node met her Sun via conjunction. So, a South Node transit isn't anything to sneeze at!

As for Brown, he has the opposite: the North Node in his 10th House, a transit which started a couple months ago in January. It's possible the news started to shift slightly in his favor or the bad news wasn't sticking as much as it had before.

So, where Cameron may find it hard to gain traction in the weeks to come as a Leader in the Public's eyes, Brown may find luck more on his side than not.

Cameron does, though, have the North Node tightly conjunct his Solar Return Ascendant for 2009 (until October of 2010). But he also has the South Node conjunct Mars in tight opposition to this Ascendant.

So, any aggressive moves on his part -- or from others on his behalf, as this Mars/South Node is conjunct his Descendant -- is sure to backfire and decrease his power and position.

Brown, on the other hand, doesn't have the Nodes as strongly placed in his Solar Return. He does have the SR Taurus Moon conjunct the SR Taurus Midheaven. As the ruler Venus is conjunct Jupiter in Pisces in the 8th and the Moon ordinarily represents the People for politicians, one could easily suspect the people will find it easier to connect, emotionally, with Brown's ambitions than with Cameron's.

The Moon in Cameron's SR is in the 4th in Gemini with the ruler Mercury in Virgo conjunct Saturn and Venus. So it's possible the People get lost in the details when it comes to what Cameron says. And maybe they find his plans or thoughts too restrictive although he's nice and pleasant to look at.

Again, I write this an American who hasn't followed the race, so I could be w-a-y offbase!

In any case, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

Anonymous said...

I agree that Cameron's transits aren't that great for becoming prime minister. Oppositions, though, can be good for providing perspective and balance. (I personally find them often easier to handle than conjunctions.)Neptune isn't so good at perspective but don't forget that, in this case, Neptune is moving into a trine to Cameron's MC whilst opposing his Mars. This makes it a much more positive combination for fulfilling his dreams regarding his career.
The ongoing Saturn/Uranus opposition is sitting on his ASC/DESC (in May) squaring his MC. This could suggest resposibility (Saturn) and change (Uranus) giving structure and form (square) to his career path - or it could indicate limitation (Saturn) and upheaval (Uranus) challenging(square)his career path! (Don't you just love astrology(o:) In May, Jupiter wades into the equation, in his sixth house of work, exactly conjoining his natal Saturn. I would take this to mean an increase in responsibilty and a more positive spin to that square to his MC, but it does seem a bit subdued with everything else going on. A hung Parliament may be more likely than an outright win

I admit to being biased when looking at Gordon Brown's chart. I'm afraid I see only a spoilt child (Aries ASC combined with Leo Moon/Pluto conjunction in 5th house, plus a Venus/Mars conjunction in 12th) who cannot bear not getting his own way. (The bullying/temper rumours fit). I'm outraged that this man none of us voted for has been in power for so long and truly hope we will be rid of him soon. I agree that Pluto conjunct MC is empowering; but this is Pluto we are talking about. Its full effects are rarely immediate. When I went through this transit myself some years ago it coincided with a difficult time of loss and heartache - it's only now, looking back, that I can see it was the beginning of a powerful new era. Before the phoenix can rise it has to burn. As for the Neptune transit to Brown's natal Sun, this can be a time of intense confusion and dissolution of the ego as much as inspirational. A lot depends on the natal aspects to the sun as well as transiting Neptune. Brown's Sun is not badly aspected - apart from a quincunx from Saturn. This of course is amplified by his Saturn return in May. In June the lunar eclipse is exactly conjunct his MC. and by the Summer Pluto (in his 10th) and Uranus (in his 12th)will be more closely in square to each other. This speaks to me of endings rather than new beginings, but like I say, I'm biased and hopeful (:

Iam wondering what you think about Nick Clegg...

~J

Darren said...

One thing worth baring in mind: whoever wins this election has got a lot of challenges to deal with, and a big mess to sort out. Losing this election might actually be a blessing!

Anonymous said...

What you say is always interesting. How about a look at Nick Clegg's chart just to touch all the bases.

Mandy said...

Second astrologer I've seen today that predict Brown will win... and this has depressed me incredibly.

I'm not particurlary impressed by Cameron or any other politician but another five years of Brown and Labour? No thanks. We shall see what happens...

Anonymous said...

Astrodatabank gives Cameron's birth as 10 minutes later - this means that Uranus won't be making hard contacts to his angles until next year.

Looking at the death of his son, Ivan, last year on February 25th, Pluto was within 1 degree of his IC on the astrodatabank chart, but 3 degrees past it on the 5.51 am chart. This suggests that 6.00 is more accurate, and that Uranus won't square his MC or oppose his ASC this year.

Johnathan

Dharmaruci said...

The official time, as you say, is 6pm. But Annabel Herriot, an astrologer who supports the Tory party, buttonholed Cameron's secretary at the Tory Conference a couple of years ago and got her to ring his Mum and came back with 5.55. Annabel was also a midwife, and agreed with me that the birth time is often written down a few minutes late. Hence the time I am using!