tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post4372930167846200219..comments2024-01-03T17:02:06.646+00:00Comments on ASTROTABLETALK: THE PROBLEM WITH EVOLUTION Barry Goddardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10050835957098177925noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-12599233190588774122014-01-03T14:38:34.494+00:002014-01-03T14:38:34.494+00:00YOU'RE AN IDIOT!YOU'RE AN IDIOT!Onyxqueenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861357742516932747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-35002924914567793282013-06-12T03:33:12.188+01:002013-06-12T03:33:12.188+01:00"The thing is there is no mechanism for the j..."The thing is there is no mechanism for the jump model, but the evidence points to it."<br /><br />The theory is called Puntuated Equilibrium and it's well known and taught alongside other theories of Evolution at the University level.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-68125417916388257762013-06-12T03:30:40.475+01:002013-06-12T03:30:40.475+01:00Evolution doesn't have any idea of superiority...Evolution doesn't have any idea of superiority. It does not place humans on any pedestal whatsoever. In fact, that's one of the things I loved about it when I studied it in college. Everything alive has succeeded. All it does is merely observe that whatever is still alive has been successful! It could be less advanced or more advanced or unchanged. Whatever it is, the way it is has allowed it to survive. You might be surprised if you met some real Evolutionary biologists. They aren't proselytizing, they more confused about why it's such a big deal than being dogmatic about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-8288288489960524712013-05-31T22:51:42.050+01:002013-05-31T22:51:42.050+01:00I have never seen any evidence that called for a &...I have never seen any evidence that called for a "jump" model. There is some evidence that evolutionary pressure can be very chaotic, leading to the theory of "punctuated equilibrium", where there are periods of relatively slow evolution and periods of rapid evolution. This is not universally accepted however and does not call for any "jump" model.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180191685544258860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-86737385785502457962013-05-30T15:54:41.217+01:002013-05-30T15:54:41.217+01:00The thing is there is no mechanism for the jump mo...The thing is there is no mechanism for the jump model, but the evidence points to it. As well as to some kind of design at work. The present understanding of blind chance seems to me ridiculous! DRBarry Goddardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10050835957098177925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-29604628353778300672013-05-30T14:48:19.009+01:002013-05-30T14:48:19.009+01:00Interesting. Part of the problem is that evolution...Interesting. Part of the problem is that evolution can be viewed as a slow process and one thing slowly moves to the next. Or, evolution can be viewed as a "jump" process in which no intermidiate steps are needed. <br />It is one of our current "creation" myhts. It works, but it is also partial. <br />Science still has much to learn and reveal.<br />Cheers,<br />NicMagic Dragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03058470485175140238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-47239574128953598172013-05-29T13:49:30.980+01:002013-05-29T13:49:30.980+01:00As I said, they will virtually all come down on on...As I said, they will virtually all come down on one side or the other, that is inevitable. There are gaps in the fossil record (which is also expected) so any one trait might not show a continuous progression. But some traits might show a progression between some fossils and other traits would show it between other fossils. Taken together, they produce a fairly complete set even if not perfect. If there had been no evolution, you would not expect a progression of any trait at all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180191685544258860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-46025201559349276162013-05-29T13:37:55.567+01:002013-05-29T13:37:55.567+01:00No, it's not that. With apes and humans, for e...No, it's not that. With apes and humans, for example, the head is set at a very different angle on the neck. There are no fossil intermediaries, which you'd expect with gradual evolution.<br /><br />Of course there will be differences of opinion, particularly with recent finds, but they all seem to come down eventually on one side or the other. And I'd imagine it's because fossils tend to be fragmentary, rather than because there is eg an intermediate positioning of the head on the neck, none of which seem to have been found so far.Barry Goddardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10050835957098177925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-2363884351279186732013-05-29T13:21:02.456+01:002013-05-29T13:21:02.456+01:00I'll just deal with your first paragraph. Were...I'll just deal with your first paragraph. Were you somehow expecting to find a fossil of something that isn't a species? Of course fossils are all species, what else could they be? As far as no intermediaries between apes and humans (or more correctly, between humans and their common ancestor with apes), of course all the fossils are either apes or human. Anthropologists look for certain traits and will classify a given fossil as an ape or human, depending on which traits he observes. There are no other choices! The key factor is that there are a number of fossils which different anthropologists classify differently, some say ape, some say human. That's pretty much the definition of "intermediate".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180191685544258860noreply@blogger.com