tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post7051528319455075563..comments2024-01-03T17:02:06.646+00:00Comments on ASTROTABLETALK: Popegate 2010-2015Barry Goddardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10050835957098177925noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-67403592082704459452013-10-21T08:50:34.063+01:002013-10-21T08:50:34.063+01:00I often lie awake at night, wondering whether my p...I often lie awake at night, wondering whether my present lecturer/guru will see fit to grace my spirit and body with the gift of his Manhood. Sadly, I am often let down, at 54, as unworthy due to my lack of 'spiritual awareness'. The 19 and 20 year old females in our group seem to be far more spiritually attuned to his God-Given powers, he says, because they are more innocent. I am like a plum, withered on the vine, he says. I think he is like a plum too, though. Cannot we be plums together? He lets me down gently, but I love him.<br /><br /><br />Tinkerbell,<br />Dingley Dell <br />Somewhere in the UKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-37116561739682847152013-02-28T09:29:11.468+00:002013-02-28T09:29:11.468+00:00"with Pluto and Uranus starting to make some ..."with Pluto and Uranus starting to make some serious aspects to his natal Moon-Pluto, we may see a process leading to the Pope's resignation, the first to do so since 1415."<br /><br /><br />Great prescience! But you gave the Pope more time than he had ...<br />Alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-20938433654432077182010-04-07T20:18:57.253+01:002010-04-07T20:18:57.253+01:00Wow, Dharmaruci,
I'm really surprised that yo...Wow, Dharmaruci,<br /><br />I'm really surprised that you didn't publish my comment. I thought it was intelligent, respectful, and relevant.<br /><br />I seem to be getting censored a lot lately. Pluto is stationing square to my natal Pluto, but this aspect doesn't quite say "censorship" to my mind. Saturn is in opening square to my natal Saturn, as well, but I would expect this to make me retreat from others rather than the other way around. ?<br /><br />Thanks for your blog. It adds to my life.<br /><br />Kenna JKenna Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-32192851108393688162010-04-05T22:45:03.943+01:002010-04-05T22:45:03.943+01:00It is the same. The party with the power has to d...It is the same. The party with the power has to decline.<br /><br />Think of it this way: There may have been boys who actually enjoyed the sexual activities with their priests and even looked forward to the experiences. They simply were not in a position to consent, though. Making space for the few priest-underling sexual relationships which could be positive is insane, as this would also make space for the thousands of others which do terrible damage. There is no way to determine in advance which a power-imbalanced sexual relationship will turn out to be. The party with the power has to refrain.<br /><br />I AM more worried about the pedophile priests. I'm speaking up because I think it is a casual lack of awareness, as Dharmaruci is showing on this issue, that allows priests like that to be deluded into thinking that what they are doing is okay. I don't think all pedophilic priests are sociopathic monsters; I think many of them are seeking holiness and love and just don't know any better about power relationships. I feel surprised to learn that there are intelligent, educated, non-pedophiles who also don't know better. <br /><br />On an astrological note, I've noticed that people born during the 17-year period when Neptune was in Scorpio tend to think there's something thrilling about mixing power imbalances with sexuality.Kenna Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-73019144879338607952010-04-04T09:18:46.873+01:002010-04-04T09:18:46.873+01:00And I'm "blown away"you can say a se...And I'm "blown away"you can say a secretary having an affair with her boss is the same as a caregiver having sex with their mentally handicapped patient!!??<br /> Lord almighty...<br />I'd be more worried about the real villains,the peadophile priests out there instead of yacking at some Astrologer about his "tone" addressing womens issues. Atleast he is raising awareness about an important issue and inspiring discussion.Marinahttp://www.funkastrology.co.uk/marinacarusonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-723038443839346142010-04-04T07:20:07.805+01:002010-04-04T07:20:07.805+01:00An underling is simply not in a position to make a...An underling is simply not in a position to make a free-willed consent to sexual relations, so the responsibility lies completely with the superior. Saying it's okay for an employer to have sex with an employee is like saying it's okay for a caregiver to have sex with a severely mentally retarded patient. The mentally retarded person may have really, really wanted the sex, but the caregiver still did the wrong thing. The same goes for older children having sex with significantly younger children or adults having sex with children. If sex isn't consensual, it's rape. If one party doesn't have the status to decline, then it's not consensual. That's how it works in the USA, anyway. I'm blown away that this information isn't common knowledge where you are.Kenna Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-65440032042538971962010-04-04T02:30:33.459+01:002010-04-04T02:30:33.459+01:00As an Astrologer and feminist I find nothing offen...As an Astrologer and feminist I find nothing offensive in this post at all. I found it illuminating,straight-talking, fair and balanced. The tone of the whole Blog seems to be coming from a good place I think.<br /> Nobody can assume rape just because the man was in a position of power, economic or otherwise. I think that IS being unfair to men and gives feminism a bad name. Nothing is black & white in these situations. The world is full of uncomfortable truths, why sugar coat them?<br /> I'm British;)Marinahttp://www.funkastrology.co.uk/marinacarusonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-74971483589630740022010-04-02T05:59:01.299+01:002010-04-02T05:59:01.299+01:00Yes, what you said was cold and detached. It lack...Yes, what you said was cold and detached. It lacked any empathy, kindness, or respect for another's disenfranchisement. You can take that personally if you want to. If you are something other than cold and detached about this issue, then, please, say something warm and empathetic.<br /><br />I do say the same about marriages where there is an economic necessity to stay together. Marriage doesn't require a person to have sex against her desire! Not these days. You are still someone's wife even if you decline to have sex with him. There are still a few backward states in the USA which say husbands have the right to rape their wives, but not many. <br /><br />By your logic, all the children born between American slaves and their white owners weren't the product of rape, either. Can you be serious?<br /><br />[What century do you live in over there in England, anyway?]Kenna Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-77358159227554452182010-04-01T20:04:32.711+01:002010-04-01T20:04:32.711+01:00This is very sad. It's Pluto exposing the dark...This is very sad. It's Pluto exposing the dark side of religion. This is also very interesting. Last time Pluto was in Capricorn, Luther began the Protestant movement. The power of the Church will erode further.segurelhanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-88205499406900289932010-03-31T22:50:19.343+01:002010-03-31T22:50:19.343+01:00Loved Sinead O'Connor brave take in this on Ne...Loved Sinead O'Connor brave take in this on Newsnight; though she was battling with the enemy with very little support. I admire her stand on it enormously...handlessmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15685270840728031482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-35147609106434193002010-03-31T12:13:25.266+01:002010-03-31T12:13:25.266+01:00Cold and detached? Let's not get personal, it&...Cold and detached? Let's not get personal, it's bad argument.<br /><br />Housekeepers in rural Ireland being in a position of ongoing rape? You should then logically say that about all marriages where there is an economic necessity to stay together. I think you are imposing some very recent ideology onto a situation we don't know very much about, and being very unfair to the husbands/priests. <br /><br />Some of the men (and women) were no doubt bad eggs, just like nowadays, but to accuse all the men in such a situation of being rapists just because there is a tie of economic survival...?Barry Goddardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10050835957098177925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-79312415769494538582010-03-31T03:48:37.396+01:002010-03-31T03:48:37.396+01:00Gosh, Dharmaruci, your comments about the sexual o...Gosh, Dharmaruci, your comments about the sexual obligations of female underlings are not very Aquarian, except in their coldness and detachment! You mention some relationships which are chosen, such as Timothy Leary's students, but housemaids in rural Ireland may have no other options. When someone has no choice about having sex or not, or when she has to choose between sex and her basic survival, it's called rape. If you don't understand why, then you obviously have never been in such a position. <br /><br />I'm deeply glad that we are leaving behind the sex roles of the Piscean age. It is to everyone's benefit when women are empowered to think of their bodies as their own.Kenna Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-40415425068059121482010-03-30T12:55:31.315+01:002010-03-30T12:55:31.315+01:00The day of that lecture was 12 Sept 2006, the day ...The day of that lecture was 12 Sept 2006, the day after 9/11, what a day to attack Muslims! Pluto was stationing Direct at 24 Sag, just starting a 6-month run-in that would station square to his Mercury and stop just short of an opposition to his Mars.<br /><br />2 years later, in his Christmas message, he said that saving the world from homosexuals and transsexuals was as important as the environmental issue. (http://astrotabletalk.blogspot.com/2008/12/popes-christmas-message.html)<br /><br />So it's as if Pluto changed the nature of his Mercury-Mars, emboldened him as Pope to take pot-shots at the Church's traditional enemies.Barry Goddardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10050835957098177925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-39392072065583436872010-03-30T06:58:00.972+01:002010-03-30T06:58:00.972+01:00Uranus on his Mercury is a bonus for his intellect...Uranus on his Mercury is a bonus for his intellect, though the square from Mars causes a problem. The Regensburg lecture was 10 days before a solar eclipse opposite his Mercury, and on the day of the lecture, transiting Mercury was on this eclipse degree. An even bigger problem than the square from Mars is the fixed star Scheat conjunct his Mercury by just 05'. It gives "trouble through writings". http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Scheat.htmlJamie Funkhttp://funkastrology.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-56016524342086588482010-03-30T05:41:31.283+01:002010-03-30T05:41:31.283+01:00I don't know if you saw Christopher Hitchens o...I don't know if you saw Christopher Hitchens on Bill Maher but he had some choice comments about Pope Benedict.<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/27/christopher-hitchens-cath_n_515657.htmlTracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15482704982164085234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-66791627639549659312010-03-28T11:07:17.374+01:002010-03-28T11:07:17.374+01:00Entirely agree that the celibacy requirement for p...Entirely agree that the celibacy requirement for priests should be scrapped. The present situation is unhealthy in the extreme and most unnatural. <br />Rabbis are always expected to be married and have families and this produces a far healthier situation.Sally Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02992827580297765832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-6513864106985444472010-03-28T02:49:39.452+01:002010-03-28T02:49:39.452+01:00What a great Blog post, so good to know a bit more...What a great Blog post, so good to know a bit more of the Popes background as I have only just started looking into him. I have a specific interest in the Liliths so I drew up Benedict's chart with them and found he has a tight Priapus Moon opposition, in my blog I wrote:<br />"The coming Full Moon may bring things to a head for Pope Benedict XVI. Like Americas chart his Moon (at 14 degs Libra) is in tight hard aspect to Priapus, this time in opposition. The Full Moon falls within 6 degs of this axis. Not as tight as I’d like, but in the light of this news I think this is significant. Priapus representing the anti-Lilith, the epitome of church hypocrisy and society’s double standards."<br />What I didn't notice is that they are both T squared PLUTO, under a degree the whole set up.<br />That means his upcoming Pluto half return will form a grand CROSS in his chart between Tr Pluto and his natal Moon, Priapus and Pluto.<br />Pluto reaches 13 Capricorn (opposing natal Pluto) in March 2014. Uranus and Pluto will be in EXACT square in April 2014. The last of the conjunctions starting in 2011. I saw this and thought he is most likely to die around then or the Church will die. Your adding the Solar return to it certainly backs this up. If he doesnt die then yes, resignation seems very likely. I do like the symbolism of all these grand crosses. Crucifixion for the Catholic Church? He he..Marina Carusohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04124738271962828008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-52439662440290053182010-03-27T23:49:52.924+00:002010-03-27T23:49:52.924+00:00The Pope's got a natal Mercury-Uranus conjunct...The Pope's got a natal Mercury-Uranus conjunction, which contributes to his well-known intellectual ability. It would help him, for example, construct theological arguments that get him out of a tight corner!<br /><br />So transiting Uranus conjoining his Mercury would be easier for him than for some, because it's familiar territory. It will be interesting to see the wriggles he comes up with.<br /><br />Again, Jupiter, which will also be conjoining his Mercury, is co-ruler of Pisces, the sign of his Mercury, so he might be able to move things his way for a while.<br /><br />But as you say, it could be quite critical, because Mercury rules two of his Angles.<br /><br />And also he has his Uranus Return, which is probably a less dramatic version of the Uranus opposition, so we could see his Papacy take a different course over the next year or so, particualrly with Uranus ruling the 11th House of, in his case, congregations.Barry Goddardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10050835957098177925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30912075.post-10504816147266256452010-03-27T23:00:01.482+00:002010-03-27T23:00:01.482+00:00we seem to be interested in the same topics. this ...we seem to be interested in the same topics. this is very informative and it's great you have researched this Pope previously, still have to read the precious one. the jupiter-uranus conjunction will be on his mercury so that may be a critical time for him. i want to write about it later and will definitely link to this article.Jamie Funkhttp://funkastrology.co.uk/noreply@blogger.com